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why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel. what is it about is? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and sond didn't. is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it. what burns so deeply in john mccain these days? it seems to excite those who knew nothing about vietnam but want to replay it. we big into the deep well of resentment purning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tr toured him all those years, no the against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation back in 2000, but against a guy who fought against fear and ralliesed against wounds just like he did in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietnam, chuck hagel. a nightmare by the way whose flashbacks must haunt still the mind and hart of john sidney mccain. i'm joined by david con and joy reid. both of you, sir and lady, a
why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel. what is it about is? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and sond didn't. is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it. what burns so deeply in john mccain these days? it seems to excite those who knew nothing about vietnam but want to replay it. we big into...
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hillary clinton the united states sixty seven secretary of states formally resigned from her post her successor senator john kerry will replace or after a swearing in ceremony friday resignation caps an especially turbulent for your tenure marked by conflict revolutions and military intervention. at least nine people have been killed after carrying a truck or a truck carrying fireworks exploded in central china thirteen people also injured some of whom are in critical condition the blast caused the collapse of a part of a highway rescue workers are sifting through the debris for survivors the serious blows to the reputation of the german catholic church have resulted in more and more worshippers turning their backs on the institution child abuse and sexual harassment cases committed by priests that don't even get to court scene is the main reason for the drastically shrinking congregations just a warning you may find some of the details and peter all of us report disturbing. the abuse of trust the destruction of faith the theft of innocence. in one nine hundred seventy nine i was invi
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states to running for the senate to running for the presidency to being secretary of state. come monday what is she going to do? >> i think she's going to sleep a little. she's been pretty clear about that. i mean, one of the great things about hillary clinton is her dedication to public service. and she has never been without the understanding that there are many ways to serve and it may come in small moments and big lenses like she's just experienced. i think the chance to refresh herself a little bit, both physically and emotionally and frankly intellectually will lead her to make decisions about the role that she believes is the most important one for her to play in the community in which she lives, be it the small neighborhood or the large world she's a part of. >> i would like to think she's going to sleep in, but knowing hillary i think she's going to wake up early and start -- >> take a walk. maybe she'll take a walk. >> she might take a walk. she used to love to do that in the white house with her little cap on. ann, you wrote a piece looking at the legacy of hillar
states to running for the senate to running for the presidency to being secretary of state. come monday what is she going to do? >> i think she's going to sleep a little. she's been pretty clear about that. i mean, one of the great things about hillary clinton is her dedication to public service. and she has never been without the understanding that there are many ways to serve and it may come in small moments and big lenses like she's just experienced. i think the chance to refresh...
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he ran unsuccessfully for the united states senate, and has worked as an operative for a who's-who of republican candidates. he was a political assistant to spiro agnew. he has had key roles in the presidential campaigns of ronald reagan, george h.w. bush, and robert dole. he has been a fellow at the kennedy center harvard institute of politics. so much for biography. now on to the exciting matters of process. we are on the record. no filing of any kind while the breakfast is underway. there is no embargo when the breakfast is underway except that c-span has agreed not to use video until after it the breakfast has ended. i tell guests that despite major changes in the news business, the breakfast group remains committed to conversations between newsmakers and journalists. your help is appreciated on mornings when guests are at the center of a controversial issue, as our guest is. on the front page of "the wall street journal" this morning, a lovely color picture. if you would like to ask a question, do the traditional thing and send me a subtle signal and i would do my best to call on
he ran unsuccessfully for the united states senate, and has worked as an operative for a who's-who of republican candidates. he was a political assistant to spiro agnew. he has had key roles in the presidential campaigns of ronald reagan, george h.w. bush, and robert dole. he has been a fellow at the kennedy center harvard institute of politics. so much for biography. now on to the exciting matters of process. we are on the record. no filing of any kind while the breakfast is underway. there is...
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states senator, as president of the atlantic council. you are talking about someone who is perhaps not uniquely, but particularly qualified to serve as secretary of defense, and i think kwaul ficks and his willingness to serve the country, again, you know, back in the 1960s he not only volunteered to go to vietnam, but he served there with great distinction. he is someone who is a patriot, and i think in the end of the day that's going to make the difference. his experience, his intellect, and his commitment to the country. >> and, finally, i don't know if you have heard anything -- any briefing at all on what happened in anchora today with a group that claims to be a left wing group against u.s. forces? we've deployed forces to run the patriot anti-aircraft batteries, the missile systems there. what do you know about what happened at our embassy? >> i just know what's been reported that apparently two people have been killed, including the suicide bomber, and that we're taking precautions to protect americans and american diplomatic per
states senator, as president of the atlantic council. you are talking about someone who is perhaps not uniquely, but particularly qualified to serve as secretary of defense, and i think kwaul ficks and his willingness to serve the country, again, you know, back in the 1960s he not only volunteered to go to vietnam, but he served there with great distinction. he is someone who is a patriot, and i think in the end of the day that's going to make the difference. his experience, his intellect, and...
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if the senate had gone to a 51-vote body it would have changed the nature of the united states senate forever. >> before we leave the president, senator schumer, you had a little quality time for the president recently. one of the many hats you wear you're the chairman of the joint inaugural committee. among your chairman as joint inaugural committee are to? >> ride in the limo with the president alone. it is a very nice limo. in any case, you know, we had a very good conversation. in fact it was not different, than the one we had here about what the next four years are going to be like. and i think, you know, i don't want to give away the president's thoughts but i expressed the same thing that we expressed here, that it will get better. there will be more agreement. and the president i think agreed with that. >> what is the car like? >> plush. [laughter] big. heavy. and the windows are very thick but you can see out of them. they can't see in but you can see out. >> what else did you talk about? >> that was the main thing. the main thing was that. i didn't want to, my staff gave me
if the senate had gone to a 51-vote body it would have changed the nature of the united states senate forever. >> before we leave the president, senator schumer, you had a little quality time for the president recently. one of the many hats you wear you're the chairman of the joint inaugural committee. among your chairman as joint inaugural committee are to? >> ride in the limo with the president alone. it is a very nice limo. in any case, you know, we had a very good conversation....
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there have been a couple of recent statements made by the current israeli ambassador to the united states, the former ambassador and now the former deputy minister that were fairly positive about me. host: here is maryland, the republican line. caller: good morning. i just wanted to say that i think he is a good choice. i think he tries to be objective. his point yesterday about iraq was very well taken that the war should not have happened in the first place. regardless of whether or not the surge or not. it was based on lies. perception area -- deception. it was a tragedy. the other thing i found interesting, the israeli -- i found it interesting to watch all these interactions going on. when you look at the middle east, it is a complex issue. what is happening in palestine is a tragedy because you do have military occupations going on. these people's plans are being taken away. i think it is refreshing to get somebody who can be honest about that and say hey, listen, there are two signs -- signs -- sides and they are wrong. guest: that is one of the main selling points about chuck hage
there have been a couple of recent statements made by the current israeli ambassador to the united states, the former ambassador and now the former deputy minister that were fairly positive about me. host: here is maryland, the republican line. caller: good morning. i just wanted to say that i think he is a good choice. i think he tries to be objective. his point yesterday about iraq was very well taken that the war should not have happened in the first place. regardless of whether or not the...
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i probably would like to be you a united states senator. >> there is a tendency among those in the punditry class and washington, d.c., class to laugh these moments off as silly. william f. buckley said i'd rather be governed by the first 2,000 names in the boston phone book than the harvard faculty. it's not necessarily an endorsement of geraldo but non-politician -- >> you still have to be somebody who knows something about the law and somebody who -- >> he's a smart guy. that's not his problem. >> what? >> what are you saying about geraldo. >> this is not a guy who has been in politics. this is somebody who wants the fame and attention and the adoration to come to him. >> he wrote a book called "exposing myself" a lot of which has to do with all the women he's been with. >> that's the jump on the gun, get it out of the way before you get into politics. >> no one can bring it up when do you the debate. >> preemptive strike. >> i don't know. i don't know. i have to say, terrifyingly i kind of agree with will on this. i don't know this is just a ploy. i disagree with the harvard elites part
i probably would like to be you a united states senator. >> there is a tendency among those in the punditry class and washington, d.c., class to laugh these moments off as silly. william f. buckley said i'd rather be governed by the first 2,000 names in the boston phone book than the harvard faculty. it's not necessarily an endorsement of geraldo but non-politician -- >> you still have to be somebody who knows something about the law and somebody who -- >> he's a smart guy....
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. >> name one person in your opinion who's intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> well, why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person -- >> name one dumb thing we've been goaded into doing because of the pressure from the israeli or jewish lobby. >> i have already stated that i regret the terminology used. >> you said back then, it makes us do dumb things. >> well, i can't give you an example. >> thank you. >> andrea mitchell, obviously such a balancing act of a topic. what do you make of the questioning and the answers? >> well, first of all, i think, you know, remember when lloyd bentsen had breakfast with some lobbyists and there was a big brouhaha when he was about to become treasury secretary, he said when i make a mistake, it's a beaut. and it went away. i also think if i would have been prepping him, i wouldn't have let him, in his response, refer to the, quote, jewish lobby because that creates another sound bite. don't do that. just say i know there's some controversy about what i said,
. >> name one person in your opinion who's intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> well, why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person -- >> name one dumb thing we've been goaded into doing because of the pressure from the israeli or jewish lobby. >> i have already stated that i regret the terminology used. >> you said back then, it makes us do dumb...
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of the united states will hold true, substantive hearings about the facts and circumstances surrounding the benghazi tragedy. so we will come to know who knew what and when they knew so we can fix whatever the problem was and never again can u.s. state department or other officials be put at risk. the one thing i will note about the turkish suicide attack, it seems to be very dramatic, but also very ineffective. only two dead -- only. one of whom is the suicide bomber himself. they didn't penetrate the embassy there. >> gretchen: yeah, but it's a scare tactic of going after an embassy again. you had the benghazi situation and now turkey, which many people feel was a safe country. >> steve: that was good answer, senator. you spoke about being in the senate and you created quite a fire storm yesterday on your radio show when you said, you know what? i am seriously giving thought to running as a republican in my home state of new jersey against cory booker potentially. >> it will either be mayor cory booker, the charismatic mayor of newark, the largest city in the state, or five-term 89-ye
of the united states will hold true, substantive hearings about the facts and circumstances surrounding the benghazi tragedy. so we will come to know who knew what and when they knew so we can fix whatever the problem was and never again can u.s. state department or other officials be put at risk. the one thing i will note about the turkish suicide attack, it seems to be very dramatic, but also very ineffective. only two dead -- only. one of whom is the suicide bomber himself. they didn't...
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the united states must get out of these massive land wars, iraq and afghanistan, and if possible avoid future large-scale war. despite all of the posturing and starcraft, hagel's nomination, well, is not in jeopardy. not one senator who previously voiced support for hagel has changed his or her mind. i think a lot of this has to do with jealousy. chuck hagel has an extraordinary background. very diverse. it all starts with being a combat veteran in vietnam. and of course educated under the g.i. bill. he understands veterans' issues and the possibility of what military war does, of course, to the guys on the ground. he has experience in washington and in the business world unparalleled to anybody on that senate armed services committee. he's a self-made guy in american business. this man has a resume most of these senators wish they had. he never did anything as reckless as john mccain did when he picked sarah palin to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. gosh, i wish he could have reversed the questioning today. if you ask me, this opposition to hagel is nothing but sour grapes. je
the united states must get out of these massive land wars, iraq and afghanistan, and if possible avoid future large-scale war. despite all of the posturing and starcraft, hagel's nomination, well, is not in jeopardy. not one senator who previously voiced support for hagel has changed his or her mind. i think a lot of this has to do with jealousy. chuck hagel has an extraordinary background. very diverse. it all starts with being a combat veteran in vietnam. and of course educated under the g.i....
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when the national interest of the united states is at stake, and specifically, our security, people make a vote based on the security and the best interests of the united states. >> so, i'm trying to understand, you disagree with him saying that the jewish lobby could influence congress, but you don't have a problem with his explanation, that he meant, pro-israel? >> no, he apologized. he apologized to others. i have a lot of trouble with his whole record, when you take a look at his record in the senate, opposing sanctions against iran, unilateral disarmament, in terms of nuclear weapons, the issues of afghanistan. i think he was so wrong about the surge in iraq. so it's so many different things that cumulatively add up. and he may give a right answer on a given day, but when you look at his history in the senate, and his history in his career, and what he's written, i think that's what has to stand the test of time. and that's why he fails, in my opinion, to gain my vote. >> you mentioned iran. obviously, one of the most crucial issues. this country has a decision to make this spring o
when the national interest of the united states is at stake, and specifically, our security, people make a vote based on the security and the best interests of the united states. >> so, i'm trying to understand, you disagree with him saying that the jewish lobby could influence congress, but you don't have a problem with his explanation, that he meant, pro-israel? >> no, he apologized. he apologized to others. i have a lot of trouble with his whole record, when you take a look at...
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that is the purview of the united states senate. as the senate passed the new start treaty. all that goes into the negotiation, in this particular case, russia, certainly the congress has to be involved in that. >> that is very important, senator hagel. i have to tell you because there is unease here that that may not be in the works. there has been some discussion for some time about private unilateral or bilateral negotiations, which congress is not involved in. it impacts the national security of our country. that is why this was passed. we expect you to comply with all that. i take your testimony that you comply. >> i will comply with all laws and requirements, absolutely. >> thank you. senator sessions, senator king? >> center hagel, one of the first meetings i had after i began running for this office last summer was with a group of veterans going from world war ii up through afghanistan. i wanted to share with you one of the ideas that came out of the meeting. it has been touched upon today. that is the issue of employability and implement a particularly recent vetera
that is the purview of the united states senate. as the senate passed the new start treaty. all that goes into the negotiation, in this particular case, russia, certainly the congress has to be involved in that. >> that is very important, senator hagel. i have to tell you because there is unease here that that may not be in the works. there has been some discussion for some time about private unilateral or bilateral negotiations, which congress is not involved in. it impacts the national...
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. >> name one person, in your opinion, who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> reporter: outside the hearing, senators of both parties were critical. >> i'm going to be candid. i think that chuck hagel is much more comfortable asking questions than answering them. >> i don't think it's going very well. >> reporter: hagel was repeatedly pressed by both democrats and republicans to make clear his commitment to israel's security. >> i strongly support israel. >> reporter: and clarify his stand on iran. hagel had voted against declaring iran's revolutionary guard a terror organization. and today, incorrectly referred to the u.s. policy on iran and nuclear weapons as containment. >> by the way, i've just been handed a note that i misspoke. >> reporter: hagel said he fully backs the president's position that iran cannot be allowed to get nuclear weapons and says the u.s. should talk to iran. >> engagement is not appeasement. engagement is not surrender. >> reporter: and tonight administration officials tell me that w
. >> name one person, in your opinion, who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> reporter: outside the hearing, senators of both parties were critical. >> i'm going to be candid. i think that chuck hagel is much more comfortable asking questions than answering them. >> i don't think it's going very well. >> reporter: hagel was repeatedly pressed by both democrats and...
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i am not an israeli senator. i am a united states senator. this pressure makes us to do dumb things at times. you said "jewish lobby" should not have been used. name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in united states senate? >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i do not know. >> why would you say that? >> i did not have in mind a specific person. >> do you agreed that it is a provocative statement, that i could not think of a more provocative statement about the united states, israel, and congress? name one dumb thing we have been bullied into doing because of or pressured into doing because of the jewish lobby? >> i stated i have regretted that term -- >> you stated back then it makes us do dumb things. give me one example of the dumb things that we are pressure to do up here. >> we were talking in that interview about the middle east, about positions, about israel. >> give me an example of where we have been intimidated by the israeli jewish lobby to do something dumb regarding the middle east, israel, or anywh
i am not an israeli senator. i am a united states senator. this pressure makes us to do dumb things at times. you said "jewish lobby" should not have been used. name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in united states senate? >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i do not know. >> why would you say that? >> i did not have in mind a specific person. >> do you agreed that it is a provocative statement, that i could not...
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lots of times, most useful functions of the united states senate is to put a spotlight on the right question. and then explore toward some good solutions. so i believe you have clearly put the spotlight on the right question. are workers saving enough for retirement? and your focus on the retirement income deficit, and i appreciate the even-handed way you have approached the hearings. you have your own suggested idea. you opened the hearings to witnesses from all directions and that gives a chance, really, to test senator harkin's proposals as well as other proposals and hopefully come a good conclusion. i think -- i thank the witness for being here. i told him earlier i look forward to hearing what they have to say. of course, we currently the mandatory retirement plan. my instinct, my preference would be to explore what we knew -- what we need to do to beef up or strengthen our voluntary retirement plans. we regularly, troubles that corporate and union defined benefit plans have need to be careful in the changing world that we have where businesses aren't like businesses where forty or fif
lots of times, most useful functions of the united states senate is to put a spotlight on the right question. and then explore toward some good solutions. so i believe you have clearly put the spotlight on the right question. are workers saving enough for retirement? and your focus on the retirement income deficit, and i appreciate the even-handed way you have approached the hearings. you have your own suggested idea. you opened the hearings to witnesses from all directions and that gives a...
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the house and senate have to pass budget by mid-april or member paychecks will be held. >> the united states could default on the obligation every few months. not an ideal way to run a government. a short-term solution is better than another imminent manufacturered crisis. >> house republicans passed budget in the obama era and created the salary threat so senate democrats who have not do so this year. >> republicans tried to pass amendments that prioritize payments when cash runs first, pay interest first, social security and active duty military pay. and measure offsetting new debt with the matching spending cut. >> no gimmicks or timing shifts but these would be real cuts and growth in federal spending. >> democrats blocked each amendment. the no budget no, pay act sent unauthorred to the president for promiseed signature. >> the motion carries. >> there is no break in the battle. new deadlines loom. unless the two parties agree on a compromise replacement before then. plus, at the end of march, congress has to fund the government through the end of the fiscal year or risk potentia
the house and senate have to pass budget by mid-april or member paychecks will be held. >> the united states could default on the obligation every few months. not an ideal way to run a government. a short-term solution is better than another imminent manufacturered crisis. >> house republicans passed budget in the obama era and created the salary threat so senate democrats who have not do so this year. >> republicans tried to pass amendments that prioritize payments when cash...
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when they get that i think get a life from a senator send us a thank you appreciate you covering the story i think you are. well more news for you on dot com now craving for coal energy angry china as much carbon a year as a rest of the well combined with levels of pollution in the country increasing its online. presidential candidates has been seriously wounded since a nation of sixty four year old politician has been hospitalized for gun and shot him twice this and other stories on our web site. more news in brief for you now in france tens of thousands of public sector workers took to the streets in a strike pay rises three years long. almost a million civil servants struggling at minimum wages and in greece workers have gone on a two day strike with hundreds on the streets protesting against austerity measures . fourteen year olds and the teacher have been shorter. in the u.s. city of atlanta a teenager has been taken to hospital i think say he's conscious and alert the suspect who's reportedly also a student at the school has been taken into custody as a second incident of gun v
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i am a united states senator. this pressure makes us do dumb things at times. the jewish lobby should not have been used. name one person who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. name one. >> i do not know. >> why would you say it? >> i did not have in mind a specific person. >> do you think it is a provocative statement? i cannot think of a more provocative thing to say. name one dumb thing we have been goaded into doing because of the pressure from the israeli jewish lobby. give me one example of the dumb things we were pressured to do up here. give me an example of where we have been intimidated by the israeli-jewish lobby to do something, regarding the mid east, israel, or anywhere else. >> i cannot give you one. >> do you agree you should not have said that? >> yes. >> in 2006, you were one of 12 senators who refuse to sign asking them -- why were you one of 12 who refused to sign the letter? >> i have generally had a policy during my time in the senate that i did not think it was the right approach for the congress to be sendin
i am a united states senator. this pressure makes us do dumb things at times. the jewish lobby should not have been used. name one person who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. name one. >> i do not know. >> why would you say it? >> i did not have in mind a specific person. >> do you think it is a provocative statement? i cannot think of a more provocative thing to say. name one dumb thing we have been goaded into doing because of the...
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he's somebody known as a maverick when he was in the united states senate. i think republicans are making a lot to do about nothing. to challenge him as senator mccain did today on whether or not he was wrong or right about the sur, come on. why don't you challenge him about what we're going to do about tunisia and syria and libya and keeping america's military strong. i thought it was a lot of nonsense. >> let's talk about chris christie, the governor of new jersey. a very popular governor up for re-election, a republican. george will quotes, let me read from a column in the washington post. the columnist. the presidency is the most personal vote people cast. he's quoting christie. candidates matter. he calls the gop's decision to length then the nominating process the stupidest thing the republican party ever did. you wind up with a good candidate who's damaged. do you agree with christie? >> i think all of the parties would do better with -- took less money and took less time and gave fewer veto points to small groups and more opportunity to be heard with
he's somebody known as a maverick when he was in the united states senate. i think republicans are making a lot to do about nothing. to challenge him as senator mccain did today on whether or not he was wrong or right about the sur, come on. why don't you challenge him about what we're going to do about tunisia and syria and libya and keeping america's military strong. i thought it was a lot of nonsense. >> let's talk about chris christie, the governor of new jersey. a very popular...
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united states senator. celebrated author. lawyer. and i thought he made a pretty strong, persuasive case. so did many of us. >> let's turn to cybersecurity. i was pleased that you mentioned cyber security in your initial remarks. they have moved expand its cyber security efforts. i have to talk about colorado. the air force academy is well positioned to train those. would you talk a little more on your take on cyber security and what sort of resources we need. >> i've been to those facilities in colorado a few times and don't know as much about them as you do, but i am familiar with them. they are essential to our national security. cyber, i believe represents as big a threat to the security of this country as any one specific threat. for all the reasons this committee understands. it's an insidious quiet, kind of a threat that we have never quite seen before. it can paralyze a nation in a second. not just a power grid or banking system. but it can knock out satellites. it can take down computers on all our carrier battle ships and d
united states senator. celebrated author. lawyer. and i thought he made a pretty strong, persuasive case. so did many of us. >> let's turn to cybersecurity. i was pleased that you mentioned cyber security in your initial remarks. they have moved expand its cyber security efforts. i have to talk about colorado. the air force academy is well positioned to train those. would you talk a little more on your take on cyber security and what sort of resources we need. >> i've been to those...
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we have over the years which i have supported the united states has led in reducing the efforts to reducing nuclear warheads. there was no more significant voice for that than ronald reagan. fwloo whether the hearings end up revealing any hint as to chuck hagel's actual plans for american defense remains tbd. joining me, i mean, is msnbc political analyst and executive editor of msnbc.com richard wolf. always good to see you, my friend. >> credits, meantime. really? >> i have to throw it in there. there's a few minutes after eastern standard. i want to go to you first on this. the hearings are ongoing. insofar as we can issue a judgment, it will be one with an asterick, but i guess from the outset, from what we have seen thus far from the sound that we played, my question is this really a hearing or is this a trial for positions chuck hagel once took that are counter to now the republican party and where it stands on national security issues? >> well, i think these hearings have become about the politics of national security. the big issues that divide republicans and democrats. the surge i
we have over the years which i have supported the united states has led in reducing the efforts to reducing nuclear warheads. there was no more significant voice for that than ronald reagan. fwloo whether the hearings end up revealing any hint as to chuck hagel's actual plans for american defense remains tbd. joining me, i mean, is msnbc political analyst and executive editor of msnbc.com richard wolf. always good to see you, my friend. >> credits, meantime. really? >> i have to...
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. >> during the is it years i had the privilege of serving the people of nebraska in the united states senate i cast over 3,000 votes. hundreds of committee votes. i have also a given hundreds of interviews and speeches and written a book. so as you all know, i am on the record. i am on the record on many issues, but no one individual vote, no one individual quote, no one individual statement defines me. my beliefs, my record. my overall world view has never changed. that america has and must maintain the strongest military in the world, that we must lead in the international community to confront threats and challenges together. and take advantage of opportunities together. that we must use all our tools of american power to protect our citizens and our interests. >> i want to bring in dana bash from capitol hill along with fran townsend who's back with us here. dana, give us a sense of the mood and tone in the hearing so far. do we think he's doing well in terms of convincing critics that he's the guy for the job? >> he's certainly trying. but he definitely has critics on a whole hos
. >> during the is it years i had the privilege of serving the people of nebraska in the united states senate i cast over 3,000 votes. hundreds of committee votes. i have also a given hundreds of interviews and speeches and written a book. so as you all know, i am on the record. i am on the record on many issues, but no one individual vote, no one individual quote, no one individual statement defines me. my beliefs, my record. my overall world view has never changed. that america has and...
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and senator graham and i, and senator lieberman, there are 59 votes in the united states senate, spend our time trying prevent that 60th. thank god for senator lieberman. i think history has always made a decision about the surge, sir. and you're on the wrong side of it. and your refusal to answer whether you're right or wrong about it is going to have an impact on my judgment as to whether to vote for your confirmation or not. i hope you will reconsider the fact that you refuse to answer a fundamental question about the issue that took the lives of thousands of young americans. >> well, senator, there was more to it than just flooding -- >> i'm asking about the surge, senator hagel. >> i know you are, and i'm trying to explain my position. the beginning of the surge also factored in what general allen had put into place in anbar province. the sunni awakening. we put in over 100,000 -- >> senator hagel. i'm aware of the surge and the anbar awakening. and i'm also aware that any casual observer will know that the surge was the fund mental factor led by two great leaders, general petraeu
and senator graham and i, and senator lieberman, there are 59 votes in the united states senate, spend our time trying prevent that 60th. thank god for senator lieberman. i think history has always made a decision about the surge, sir. and you're on the wrong side of it. and your refusal to answer whether you're right or wrong about it is going to have an impact on my judgment as to whether to vote for your confirmation or not. i hope you will reconsider the fact that you refuse to answer a...
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when there were 59 votes in the united states senate spent our time trying to prevent that 60th. thank god for senator lieberman. i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. and your refusal to answer whether you were right or wrong about it is going to have an impact on my judgment as to whether or not to vote for your confirmation or not. i hope you will reconsider the fact you refused to answer a fundamental question about an issue that took the lives of thousands of young americans. >> senator, there was more to it than just flooding -- >> i'm asking about the surge, senator hagel. >> i know you are and i'm trying to explain my position. the beginning of the surge also factored into what general allen had put in place in anbar province, the sunni awaken iing. we put over, as you know, 100,000 -- >> i'm very aware of the history of the surge and the anbar awakening, and i also am aware any casual observer will know the surge was the fundamental factor led by two great leaders, general petraeus and -- >> i don't know if
when there were 59 votes in the united states senate spent our time trying to prevent that 60th. thank god for senator lieberman. i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. and your refusal to answer whether you were right or wrong about it is going to have an impact on my judgment as to whether or not to vote for your confirmation or not. i hope you will reconsider the fact you refused to answer a fundamental question about an issue...
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>> well, certainly nobody questions senator hagel's service to the united state and the military. he served with distinction. the question is his record. he has been in the senate for 12 years. and if you take a look at his record on national security and defense issues it's very troubling. it is well outside the mainstream of public opinion. "the washington post", which supported president obama's election for the presidency, has come out opposing senator hagel's defense domination nomination, because his record on key foreign policy and defense issues placing him on the fringe of the senate. we agree with the "washington post" on that and think he wasn't the right choice. jenna: general, getting back to your point about our nation's soldiers, our nation's warriors out there, we're seeing senator hagel return to his testimony today, there are some that say some of his positions on policy, iran, for example, will actually lead our nation into more wars. his position where he says he is not going to support sanctions in iran and he hasn't for several years. where he says he support
>> well, certainly nobody questions senator hagel's service to the united state and the military. he served with distinction. the question is his record. he has been in the senate for 12 years. and if you take a look at his record on national security and defense issues it's very troubling. it is well outside the mainstream of public opinion. "the washington post", which supported president obama's election for the presidency, has come out opposing senator hagel's defense...